Other wise, please the views requested in my question are…Acadamic ,Acadamic , acadamic

Winta, my comment to what you stated below:

In one of my classes the issue of Obama vs Hillary came up.The topic was human rights activism and minorities. The discussion went on and got to the question who is more minority -a black or a woman? I ,being both ,prefer to have the race issue dealt with first.[/quote]

This discussion also came with my Co-workers that are African-American women that were supporters of Senator Hillary Clinton. However, we had to convince them not on their color of skin/gender but the candidates policy differences.

In office argument, one of Senator Obama supporter said, “My mother and father knew, I was going to be black first before they knew boy or girl.” So your point should be in that aspect compare to your classmates dispute. However, after re reading your post on #27, I advice you not to make it a race issue but to believe in the big picture that would unite us all.

In conclusion, to get a good grade on the topic “Human Rights Activism and minorities” especially between Black male (Obama) vs. White female (Clinton): search it more in Wealth gap, CEO’s in fortune 500, Social issues, Education opportunty, and others. You should not argue what the subject does not call for ……,we are called this or that.

Try and read between the lines …your definition makes aparthied a democracy

http://academic.udayton.edu/race/01race/minor01.htm

In one of my classes the issue of obama vs Hilary came up.The topic was human rights activism and minorities. the discussion went on and got to the question who is more minority -a black or a woman? I ,being both ,prefer to have the race issue dealt with first.In making my argument I tried to look in to the racial and sex hierarchy in the US ..you know White men,white women,Black men,black women(of course ,other things being equal)

All the white women in my class said the issue of women rights should be dealt with first cause the white female comes after the black male in the hierarchy.they argued that america is more sexiest than racist gaving the example of the recent ”Bitch ”comment about Hilary and questioning about the out roar it would have caused if it were the ‘N’ word. Of course,they have a point.

I want to hear from those of you who have the acadamic point of view on this.Wht do you think? Think about how easier it is for ppl who are previledged not to notice a minority issue.like for instance men’s towards women or white women(who are minorities them selves) towards the issue of race.

Here is a former Republican presidential candidate for 2008, Mr. Huckabee said it best on the Right wing TV.

“…… One other thing I think we’ve got to remember: As easy as it is for those of us who are white to look back and say, “That’s a terrible statement,” I grew up in a very segregated South, and I think that you have to cut some slack. And I’m going to be probably the only conservative in America who’s going to say something like this, but I’m just telling you: We’ve got to cut some slack to people who grew up being called names, being told, “You have to sit in the balcony when you go to the movie. You have to go to the back door to go into the restaurant. And you can’t sit out there with everyone else. There’s a separate waiting room in the doctor’s office. Here’s where you sit on the bus.” And you know what? Sometimes people do have a chip on their shoulder and resentment. And you have to just say, I probably would, too. I probably would, too. In fact, I may have had a more, more of a chip on my shoulder had it been me. “

Is it really an issue of fear or playing the race card, NO.

All he said is let’s come together for a better cause. Most individuals who use the race card, white or black are crying foul or accusing the other; Obama did none of that. He was shedding a light into the divide we constantly have in this country for years based on race and color. He even expanded that into how divided we are among poverty lines. He said we will constantly label individuals racist for making comments pro or against race and circle around it without a possible avenue towards a solution.

Where do you live and why are you so critical of the system in the USA? I believe you live in Canada and don’t get me started with your ‘we surrender’ approach; we can discuss further on that if you like.

Is he a politician? Yes and politicians have ways of marking their territory using tough speeches and real mixed causes. Mind you, all this change he’s proposing or would like to see would require most people to be on the same page, changing the way things used to be done and it will be a tough task to accomplish, but it’s a start.

Baby,

About experience, Obama has the same amount/years of experience as Abraham Lincoln and comparable years to that of Kennedy; both have transcended the country in a big way.

No -I think he is just another smart ass politician with the right racial mix at the right time(8 years of messed up Bush Junior). But even if he wanted to, the problem with America can and will not be solved through one man. You guys have the most messed up system I have ever seen. It will never change unless you change the things you value ,and how you try to get them both at the political and individual level.

Do I want him in the white house?

Yes- Why ?-Due to the racial statment his presence would make.

Do I think it was wise of him to throw in the race Card at this point in time ?

No- He should have tried to avoid getting sucked in to this.I think this would creat fear amongst the white community.As you all may remember, fear is wht got Bush Junior re-elected.

At no time did Barack said he would impose that exorbitant tax on anyone, not even the richest few whose tax break he said he would slash. Hope you are not somehow suggesting that all those smart, intellectual people who voted for him or form his support base are either dumb or duped. Did you hear McCain say anything of sense about the economy except admitting he didn’t know much how the economy works?

I am even more perplexed as to why you thought Iraqis would be grateful for being invaded, their state in shambles and their way of life destroyed. Just ask any Iraqi lucky enough to make it to the U.S in one piece.In any case, Barack has always been for responsible withdrawal, not a reckless and rushed one made out to be by conservative commentators bent on scuttling his nomination. Didn’t you notice recently that the supposedly national security candidate McCain asserting Iran is helping Al-Qaeda?

As to the issues you indicated in your last point, it is not a case of either or, they are all at the center of this primary campaign and election, if you will. The skyrocketing oil price simply makes those issues even more urgent and pushes them at the forefront of the campaign, to the consternation of McCain the cluless.

It’s remarkable that we and the folks in the media try to dissect the speech rather than take the meaning of it; as is. We need to focus on the real issues such as the economy, war, education, poverty, health care, etc rather than what a pastor’s messages are. Mind you, the messages and snip bites that were taken from the sermon are of little substance but when you listen to the whole message, the meaning is more powerful than what’s been portrayed.

Let’s get real America…time to change our objectives, time to change our views and work for the future.

Some similarities I noticed about the objectivity of the speech….Remember the Clarence Thomas sexual harassment deposition/hearing back in 1991, he gave a similar directed and objected testimony about race and racist views of what Obama laid out in his speech. See any connection???

2 cents

1) I am willing to give up more of my take-home money in the form of taxes (up to 20% increase in taxes). And this is not just the “rich” as they say.
2) How important it is to me that we win the war in Iraq and the implications it has if we decide to leave in the long run to the people of iraq and the extremists.
3) What is the most important problem to me right now. Is it Nation-wide medical coverage for all OR having someone do something about these gas prices and the economic fall-out.
I would love to ellaborate more in future notes.
Just wanted to give a different perspective

“…. what is best in me, I owe it to her.” Please click the 2: oo minutes Audio link, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRYh3Ae-DoQ to hear one of many qualities he has.

Politicians do not want to discuss race or any other controversial issues.
Senator Obama is different not on the obvious of his blackness. He is exceptional, not only being politician, not supporting Lobbyist, Iraqi war, NAFTA etc. That’s why a lot of us support him, not only to make history. His leadership skill is his best qualification to be president in my opinion. That’s why his campaign raised $55 mill last month, record for any presidential fund-raising and so many accomplishments that would be boring to mention all.

The way I look at it, most of Fox news and conservative radios play politics. How about former President Bill Clinton play politics in New Hampshire and South Carolina? I do not think most of us here would choose the racial undertone to get advantage by scaring voters and get elected.

I agree with Walid[quote comment="136820"] … But I believe Barack will come out of this battle-tested and toughened up to face the much worse onslaught from the republican machinery, should he win the nomination of course. [/quote]

He will also get over this because he is capable to explain most of the sound bites before the nomination and plenty of time until November.

It is two minutes to my shift ie the graveyard shift,I keep forgetting then when most of you are sleeping I am awake and sleeping when you are awake, thank you for making me Chief Bureau…lol I like it…

Ok Anon dont put that Economist down really Anon now it is not the time. I took up reading the Financial Times first time ever out of fear…your credit problems are affecting our markets pretty badly.

The bank of England had to deny rumours that one of the Hight Streets biggest banks the HSBC might have gone bust like Northern Rock. The bank of England never issues any statements about anything even if the entire country is going bankrupt, infact they tell us loong after the fact like months three, maybe six, like Northen Rock, they dont apologise either so that they felt they had to do this today is alarming. I think I’ll start reading the Economist as well which will also be first time from me, and since I admit it dont take my titel of Chief Bureau away…lol…

(SD). Ralph Nader costing AG is a myth. Heard of Florida hanging chads? And swing state Ohio? The two states are to blame, I think. HRC is taking that to the SD: I won all the big states including Florida, I won the swing state that really matter, I am your nominee.

I think I remember reading a little about Florida results particularly, not so mch Ohio, ok where is Ohio?…was there alleged fraud involved in the Florida results…Iremember reading about it and a court case but dont know where that was…anyway Ralph Nader is a greenie isnt he?…and he might never win he is a good tool for tactical voting. I want to learn about tactical voting when elections happen here lie in about two years…since the two main parties are equally yuk and one party is dead duck, I just want to upset however nworthy perty wins, we dont have many choices here we dont have an Obama of any race we dont even have a Mrs Clinton, I am not sure we would want a MacCain with all de respect, so got to learn about tactical voting…