Hey dudey, warm greetings and Jagshemash …..did you envisage a world without men? *gasp*,& *shudder* wouldn’t that feel a bit like the end of the world ?..or maybe the end of one half of human kind? I don’t think it would a nice world, boring too …No dudey ,let your people be, even with your obvious flaws we don’t want you extinct or substituted for artificial sperm, the mad scientist are for the most part men so they don’t want you extinct either I am sure…..they are plotting something else which will probably benefit men in the long run… *I have my conspiracy theory cap on* lol….

“The only solace I have is that women get seriously evil and catty when they are around each other in high concentrations to the exclusion of males. I’m not sure what the exact math is, but you know i’m right about this threshold when sanity and pacifism end. ”

Popular belief and feminism says this only happens because of men divide rule and conquer stuff and the power men hold in society ,but if the main culprit is extinct what is there to compete about or be catty about? …or it could be really biological and then it will be hell on earth pffff lol…

Dudey you’re crowing too soon lol…women’s tendency is to be pragmatic, , to negotiate, to care and nurture and eventually to survive under the most difficult circumstances not self destruct, we are always saving or trying to those who want to self destruct and all, mainly men but a good number of those are women so no our natural instincts will probably win ahaha to you lol…

“is it safe to say the song “its a maaaaaaan’s world” is outdated?”

Not yet musketeer , the world hasnt changed that much lol….

“you ask whats that sweet euphoric smell?

V-A-L-I-D-A-T-I-O-N lol maybe its a man’s world after all”

Indeed as it is always been…nighty night dudey ….

is it safe to say the song “its a maaaaaaan’s world” is outdated?

“but yeah soon mankind, like literaly mankind to the exclusion of women will be truly dispensable…”

lol you know this is funny even though its scary and likely true. The only solace I have is that women get seriously evil and catty when they are around each other in high concentrations to the exclusion of males. I’m not sure what the exact math is, but you know i’m right about this threshold when sanity and pacifism end.

I can rest peacefully at night knowing that soon after us men have been shelved and decommissioned (along with our sperms)and perhaps extinct, women will go at each other with furious madness. Little did the world know the male was what kept women distracted from self destruction. Ahhhh, yes sweet justice after all

you ask whats that sweet euphoric smell?

V-A-L-I-D-A-T-I-O-N lol maybe its a man’s world after all.

nighty night musketeer

Hi dudey how is your day in the Land of the Free?

“I think nations should be run by comedians, then again maybe not. I’d hate to think someone is having a jolly good laugh while raising my income tax or sending me off to another war”

lo that is funny…dudey mate the beastly politicians alredy laugh at us daily, crush the economy, start wars and ublic unrest, the only difference would be Sacha as a PM or my other favourite funny man Eddie Izzard or maybe your John Stewart ( I love him , he is brilliant)as a president they would probably makes us laugh and amuse us even as they increases our taxes and start up wars….if they have the sense of humour to parody their own government even better, if I am being laughed at I know which I would choose…and it is worse than the times of Blair the warmonger PM to Major the innefective PM..we now have a man called Gordon Brown,no one seems to like him and that is mostly his own MP’s, I think with him Labour will lose at the next general election next year…

I certainly lost interest as soon as he came on..he is a man devoid of charisma and appeal or warmth, he is ackward looking even when he means well, unlike Blair who was slightly Messiaic style deranged especially about wars but he had charisma and had the ability to make you beleive in him even when you knew you shouldnt..he had the power of persuasion and made me like politics for the first time ever when he became PM..this one cant even get his own MP’s to like him, respect him or better still for politicans to fear him lol…

“Somehow I feel like an aging robot about to be decommissioned for a newer toy”

This is such a funny image, now you know how first time wives replaced by younger models marriage model that European men seem to prefer feel like lol…not sure how that is relevant to a non European man but never mind lol….but yeah soon mankind, like literaly mankind to the exclusion of women will be truly dispensable…

I still have not understood the need to create artificial sperm…what happened to the world male population sperm? is there shortage of it? does somebody know something we dont? no one really explains why this is needed….

“point me out to the nation with the most conservative laws on science, esp. biology that will be my next abode. nagshemash, chequi, high five, and all”

Dudey nowadays that is nowhere, as far as East Europe to Asia to South America to even Italy in Western Europe IVF scientists and people in the baby making business use science and technology to create babies with total disregard to ethics..I am not on the fence on that,lol ….

hidaya, I don’t want to even think about where science is heading. I heard about the sperm with no male required, it seems we are missing the building blocks of society, man, woman + child . I would hope this is still a relevant structure. Somehow I feel like an aging robot about to be decommissioned for a newer toy. As you can tell i’m one who loves fences (not to sit on them ) as a source of boundaries, point me out to the nation with the most conservative laws on science, esp. biology that will be my next abode. nagshemash, chequi, high five, and all.

Unless of course sacha cohen somehow becomes PM, then i’m willing to sacrifice all these ideals to live under such a leader. lol I would guess he would be a great PM, in fact it amazes me how england has been cursed with major and blair two leaders I consider so inept for a country teeming with witty and intelligent sounding citizens lol I guess democracy works inversely in some places. I’d still take cohen, of course he’ll have to be in character hopefully borat, and I expect he will commission a new movie “cultural learning of america for great benefit of Britain” loool

I think nations should be run by comedians, then again maybe not. I’d hate to think someone is having a jolly good laugh while raising my income tax or sending me off to another war. Or then again why not, like newtons laws maybe joy is neither created nor lost, merely transferred. i dunno i’m on the fence on this one lol

Dudey I was only perched on a metaphorical fence,now you threaten me becoming part of the debris of all those walls that collapsed,…ha *mock indignation*, it’s got me thinking that if I was a bird I could observe stuff humans do from above and when the whatsits hits the fan ie walls, quick flying exit for the innocent bystanding little bird me lol …

Jokes aside I am not really a fence sitter or maybe just a little when it is something I am not fully informed about, like this business of creating babies from egg shells, sperm made of God knows what cucumbers even sandals maybe? j/k ,but yo get the drift …we have now been told sperm can be made without the presence of men contribution..so then the liberal in me which is majority of me gets into a bloody fight with the conservative voice within, it is not yet a strong voice yet but I suspect it might be if I give it air time then I get pulled this way and that way..the fence is much peaceful dudey but i know it cant be for forever:)…

About Borat ,that was one of my best jokes too but I didnt have the guts to even bring it lol, second best is the one about the well and the Jew … Oh my God he made all those redneck sing along with him about Jewish people, and no one was even shocked …

I liked that he stitched them up good and proper for the entire world to see their bigotry…

what I cant get over is that no one really challenged him to stop at any point ,after all they didnt know they were being stitched up and were starring in a movie right? so for all they knew this was actually real to them and they were willing to indulge him yikes… and on similar note at the beginning of Borat and before the movie came out some people even thought that he was real..who on earth would think someone like Borat is real? or his description of Kazastan real?..probably the same bigots who sang along throw the Jew down the well will also beleive that in Kazastan all those vile things Borat mentions are actually real and people from there do them and are like him…

I bet they didnt even pick up a single book to read one page about Khazastan but are ready to accept what was said about Khazastan because of their inherent bigotry …

I want Sacha Cohen for PM, if nothing else it will be laugh a minute during the recession until every ambassador in every country in the world sues the PM for outraging them on way or another…night night dudey…

I look forward to see how your views might change one way or another after reading on cells…I leave you with a borat line that I think is simply brilliant, well two:

“we support your war of terror” to which the texas crowd applauds

“may George bush drink the blood of every man, woman and child” brilliant, although that could be construed as well wishing in certain languages lol

Jagshemash mate:)my favourite Borat saying…yeah the poor woman’s face lol….you dont wanna hear of my favourite Borat joke, it is unrepeatable, it’s the one where metaphor and real stuff was all mixed up, then lost in translation as to which was on sale and which wasnt lol…

I am not that far off from your thinking about the rights of the unborn donor, not sure of the nuns though there is a lot they dont arove of lol…seriously though there is no going away that a decision was made about a being that was not consulted to be a guinea pig for lack of a better word for the primary benefit of others and their rights as to whether they want to lose a kidney, give bone marrow or whatever else, these are all invasive and painful procedures that every human should being decide whether they want to go through it or not and not have it imposed on them even by their family…

I do get that point and the protection the child donor need which is primarily why I remain perched on my fence, that, and the fact that moral issues like this takes too much thinking datdudey…who knows where it might all lead to? I am not risking it lol…

I am ok with research to cure disease ,but dubious of animal research, or experimental research just for scientific urposes only whatever anyone says some of it is absolutelty barbaric and want no experimental stuff on humans unless they are sound of mind ,consent to it ,are privy to what the reserch involves and take a well informed decision whether or not to take part in it…

The SA thing I read it , pff it is more awful than awful but not as clear cut, yes there is the practice of sexually abusing female children with the beleif it will cure AIDS, but research conducted in SA about sexual violence where a variety of men of different age groups were surveyed very recently maybe less than a month, the results seems to indicate a sexually violent society where rape and sexual violence agaisnt women is almost common place and tolerated and in some places encouraged…I will get you the link to the results of the research…they are shocking…

I am reading about research on cells latetly…will take me a while to understand first the science of it and then the ethics involved…enjoy the weekend datdudey …

Two thumbs up Anonx is back, he is not competing for the lurker title so far, Bezzie is, in absentia, poor sod lol…what else? yey nicks..there is beef about that too with N’s and T’s mssing lol…uhhhm musketeers , unless either of your fictional or real names have been likened to a city far far away with no connection to your name whatsoever you havent known the pain in suffering from thrashed name syndrome and my complaints about it are more valid than yous twos lol, this is all a joke guys incase the intended humour gets lost in the translation.. what else?…datdude I shall come back for the more serious stuff later…datdudey and Anonina ,see I have murdered both your nicks:)even more, ooops dont sen me to the tower lol…

Uhmm there is lots in modern life that the nuns would not approve of musketeer datdude:) why is this one any different?.. is it because this one involves the creation of life?…I dont have much agaisnt creating life to save life, bone marrow, stem cells, bring them all on I’d say…

Well pretty much this is different in my view in that it involves life that is defenseless. Well, people can be defenseless at different points and circumstances, but the unborn yet fertilized are the definition of a clean slate, defenseless, innocent etc…BAHHHHH I can’t make an objective, conclusive case for why I think this way about this Hidaya. I just do and very strongly about it. If I tried to give you hogwash about why i’m right it would be an insult to your great intellect, but suffice to say i’m very firmly with the nuns on this one. I’m all for trying to save the living (who might have diseases etc..) but not at the cost of research on rhesus monkeys, negro members of the US army, or in our day on the unborn. I know terrible thing to say to someone dying of a terrible disease or Michael J. Fox. Still I think living is worthwhile not because of our circumstances, but how we respond to it. And we shouldn’t lose balance in our search for cures, sort of like S. Africans raping virgins as cure for AIDS. Plus the unborn aren’t getting a chance to star in the tragic yet beautiful play of life. Some things are sacred cause I said so, and the nuns . Seriously though, this is some depressing stuff…how about a Borat joke

in my country they’d go crazy for those two, her not so much lol

cheers mate.

“I just don’t have it in me to take on a fictional depression, the world has enough suffering to self flagellate myself on cue from the silver screen.”

Self flage-what? *puzzled*

Ok, it is not Ben Hur I have been watching, never did watch it infact ,that I know would cause me some celluloid induced self flage something or self walloping the back of my own head as I would call it I am sure lol…

Actually it is not about that nor is it depressing..it is a well made morality tale of the times…

I like morality tales, they made me think what if? and reflect if I was caught up in the “what if issue myself ” what I would do and the choices I would make…

This one is not that far fetched either, there are at least three children in the UK who were in the news at some point because of their genetic incurable illness and one couple even had a baby so they could save the first baby with their bone marrow or some other stuff…and there is an ongoing debate about it as between scientist and objectors to the idea and moral people..I am a listener and not totally close minded to it nor I am open minded about it come to think of it. I just sit on the fence and listen, read it and watch movies about it, then sit of the fence, that is me aye…

Uhmm there is lots in modern life that the nuns would not approve of musketeer datdude:) why is this one any different?.. is it because this one involves the creation of life?…I dont have much agaisnt creating life to save life, bone marrow, stem cells, bring them all on I’d say…

what I am sitting on the fence about is the perspective of the child donor who didnt ask to be born yet expected to comply to wishes of others that they didnt exactly consent to..it is that perpective that keeps me on the fence…for now, that was what this movie was about…

k, so that is a yes for bruno, and a definitely no for that cameron diaz movie. I just don’t have it in me to take on a fictional depression, the world has enough suffering to self flagellate myself on cue from the silver screen. The scary thing is I don’t think we are far from organ farming, and hopefully that will be the end of it, unless organ farming means breeding kids for the unthinkable. Where does that put us in comparison to the ancient mayans and their human sacrifice? As you might guess, the nuns wouldn’t approve…lets hope these scenarios are relegated to fiction in our lifetimes.

Hei fellow musketeer sorry for being late with this reply:)…

Sacha Cohen’s Bruno is funny, It is only been out for a week here I havent seen it yet but read somewhere that though it is a funny movie Bruno is not as sharp as Borat or Ali G characters were or as likeable…I am inclined to agree I cant seem to warm up to the character at all even after seeing Sacha Cohen in character all over the place this past week and thhe week before…instead i went to see Angels and Demons and a weepie about a dying child and the morality in creating a sibling to save it uhmm arent I just a barrel of fun? lol…

do you recommend watching bruno? still haven’t watched it.

I also see anon and bez, but where is hidaya? I miss that girl from England. Hope she wasn’t traded to spain along with ronaldo
Hidaya, come back.

Oh but look who is back? datdude my old mate I have missed you too nice to see you back yeah:)… if only,about the legs though”sigh” …

If only I had skilled in football legs costing 80 millions wouldnt mind if I was sold to the end of the world, I shy away to mention any country in the world incase anyone get cross with me about it lol…Bruno aka comedian Sacha Cohen has just upset the Ambassador of Austria ith his latest film and guarantedd to upset lots more just like Borat did to everyone..so since I havent got his clout, money or lawyers I best not follow his example, but it is good Ronaldo is gone..good for Arsenal especially, lol we dont want Man United to be all invincible…btw this musketeer has been wearied by life and stuff but will show up from time to time…

Selam to other musketeers Bez and Anonx..halla guys:)

Hidaya, come back.

How do I do for instant ‘unlike’ the guy.

You could also try to get a BF, the next single guy to hit on u will do

LMAO this is the best advice yet.

Everyone is this group seems a bit forbidden fruit like.

I dont know what to advice you, as you mentioned un-liking someone doesnt work, well in that case you could either foresee what will happen and flee especially if they are married and might get sacked by their spouse and a family breakdown and mayhem ensues or professors who can be kicked out of their jobs if they cannodle with their students and they get caught abusing of the position of trust and responsablity they hold , the boss at work too might bad news , if you break up with him or have a lovers tiff wouldnt the atmosphere at work be unbearably tense? or, you could do what you wish and take the consequences and consult hindsight when things go pear shaped…brother in laws and best friend BF or husband should be a no no I think, but that is only me .

The only one safe with no attachment seems to be the way too young guy…if none of these guys are not the love of your life ask yourself are they worth the hassle of a lot of people getting hurt in the process…

He could be your boss, your professor, your brother in law, your best friend’s man, he is married, he is way too young for you, he has a girlfriend, etc… Just pick one

Genfo,
Not into religion, but I know I have to get away from the situation.

Anon,

What to do when you find yourself constantly thinking, dreaming and fantasizing about the person you believe is THE ONE but for fate you just can’t have him. The mess I was talking about is me falling even deeper for him, not cheating. I have to find a way to get over it.