http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/health/2008/02/11/cohen.sugar.substitutes.mxf.cnn

macellaio & getu, i want you to watch the video and fight it out once again. it’s monday, a little boring at work.

nolawi, i hope you’ve not closed the discussion. perhaps a little more clarity doesn’t heart anyone.

celebratelife, sky, emebet and the rest of us on the sideline also deserve a little more laughter. shrek.

you can find it here

Now my plan or resolution for the day is to laugh and so far I’m ahead of the game

FYI: The sparks you are seeing are coming from Getu’s blades as he sharpens the dullness out of his argument. Hopefully, he comes back w/ something substantive.

BTW why are you “yelling” from the side-lines? Take a side & get into the melee… I suspect you wanna see some blood spilled in the arena à la the Romans – who incidentally, started this Resolution business.

To get back to the point of the article and answer your Q….

Are we cheating ourselves here by not ACTING as soon as we recognize something in our life needs change?

I say yes because everyday we waste on thinking about the changes we need to make but don’t make them is a day wasted. We miss out on the pleasure the change could bring to our life. After all, we thought of making the change for a reason so why not see it thru. Do I do it always no but when I think of something I try and make it happen and if it doesn’t work out then I move on.

Your post is at best incoherent and in the worst case, the likely one here in my opinion, is malicious and hence ignorant.

Well here is what Kiki wrote:

Great banter guys…. the only problem I had with all this was, instead of talking about the article (good stuff BTW, Noles), it became about Getu. I have always thought the best way to deal with an insolent child was to just ignore him so he could go away. Who would have thunk serving him his own medicine would achieve a better result.

Here is what you originally wrote:

…then, I’d like to get help squaring these together:

“Limiting the things you say you will do and being realistic. You are half way there!”

“The first is our natural desire to avoid letting ourselves or others”

“Confidence in oneself is a must. With out it, nothing can be accomplished and all that remain are what-ifs. You must have self confidence and an unshakeable belief it can be done and that you are the one to do it.”

So here is where I’m confused, I have a natural desire to avoid saying no to others. Yet, that’s exactly what I should do, lest I overextend myself. And I dont want to overextend myself just to avoid not being confident; Because all it takes is for me to be confident and believe I’m the man for the job and I could have done whatever it is I’m saying no to, yet I dont do it.
I think what’s statements not borne out by fact and are weakest links here are:
- The natural desire to avoid letting some down.
- That confidence gets anything done.

I am afraid I’m not going to think highly of this article. It is not supported by actual observations…

You spliced up some sentences out of the article & formulated the above idiotic confusing proclamation. Could it be, in the euphoria of carving Nolawi’s article, you lost your argument?

Now, you tell me who is “incoherent” & “ignorant”? I’ll let the Bernos community be the judge of that. (Kiki, sorry I didn’t mean to speak for you. Just that he keeps irritating me w/ these absurd statements.)

Since you went to the trouble of posting the definition, can you be kind enough & point us where it states that “accountable people are regularly checked upon. That’s what MAKES them accountable.”??? Pls answer that & not try to side-step the holes in your so called argument.

…ELEVATED – perched on the high grounds both morally & physically looking down for any sign of Getu.

Once again you fail to see the big picture & context of the WORD’s usage. First of, this was all a joke. Second, I was saying I’m physically on elevated grounds searching for a disoriented chap, so no one is talking about your physical attributes. Interesting w/ all the energy you have devoted on the English dictionary, you seem to lack the ability to comprehend the meaning of these words you profess to know thoroughly, when they are put together. Ouch! I know that must hurt…

BTW I repeated stuff b/c you can’t answer my Qs & that’s why I stated “all my thoughts are exhausted explaining the same thing.”

You demand of us to write things that are “supported by observations & facts” and yet you don’t hold yourself to the same standard. SAD! Al I’m saying is back it up.

“Come-on though, grow some spine y’all!!” – So you can carve me up? Good, I like a fair challenge so I’ll give you a do-over. Here is your chance, make your original argument but be clear about it.

I have been a reader for several months now but never motivated to post. The article airs the frustration many of us have with family and friends but yet makes sure we shine the mirror on ourselves to make sure we too are not falling into the same mishaps of yesteryear. It is not just an act of accountability but just common courtesy in many respects. I love your Quote thanks for making me smile! Beware the butcher!

Now, it’s no more about the New Year’s or the beginning of next month or next week but more about the beginning of when I’m ready! I think failed resolutions are about parts of your life you would like to adjust but deep down you don’t have that gnawing feeling to do so yet. You know shedding 10 pounds won’t be bad but hey if you don’t make it then you can live with it…however, say if you had health complications that required losing those extra pounds, no doubt you will get on it cuz then it’s a matter of survival.

So i say planning to prepare towards achieving something is not a bad idea, but we just have to be selective about our resolutions and make sure the ones we make are things in our life we have made an internal decision to see a change in.

I have always thought the best way to deal with an insolent child was to just ignore him so he could go away

Primo, Why is insolence an exclusive trait of boys?
Secondo, when a child is insolent you tell them they were so and you teach them how to behave better. They’re a child, they need to be taught how to interact with people. Even children suffering from ADD aren’t supposed to be ignored.
Terzo, notice I may be a fast learner, I’d like to know where your impression of my insolence stems from. I’m assuming you were talking about me here. Is it because I disagreed with what Nolawi said without any derision but by stating why I disagreed? Note that noone came back with a factual argument to indicate where I erred.
Your post is at best incoherent and in the worst case, the likely one here in my opinion, is malicious and hence ignorant.
So then I’m left to wonder what would compel a person to post something like this. The answer that stands out to me is EGO!!

Macellaio,

At any rate, what you said was “accountable people are regularly checked upon. That’s what makes them accountable.” Your inference here being, the fact they are checked upon regularly makes them accountable. Bullcrap! The fact that you are responsible i.e. deliver on your promise or are designated as the responsible party etc… makes you accountable, not someone’s actions of regularly checking up on you

Since you rather obfuscate the discussion than making a factual argument, I’ll quote the dictionary’s definition of accountable:
accountable == Subject to the obligation to report, explain, or justify something; responsible; answerable.
Nowhere does it say that delivering on your promise makes you accountable. But it does say that you have the obligation to report, or like I put it, you are regularly checked upon. You start your following statement by shouting “Bullcrap” and that is the stamp of approval for everything else that follows that you say as fact. No substantial statement follows this but some jokes are repeated (I have nothing against that); and then boom!

Besides, I have this rule (ye’feri rule), to never kick a man when he is down… unless I’m absolutely sure he won’t get back up

All of sudden I’m down. You declare me down that is. This makes you the debator, the prosecutor, and then the judge. I’d guess the facts should have been laid out and allowed to take their course. Note that, even though it really doesn’t matter, at that point noone else came out and actually agreed with whatever you had to say to me.
Of course, there was one more thing

Announcement: HSAS Threat Level has been reduced from Orange (HIGH – scared sh^tless by all the cutting & dicing) to Yellow (ELEVATED – perched on the high grounds both morally & physically looking down for any sign of Getu). No more knives in the lounge. Whew

You remind us that you’re at an elevated moral and physical ground.
Primo, you have no idea how I look physically
Secondo, you repeating the same thing won’t make it fact!!
btw, thanks for the help on counting up to three in Italian.
so then, again, I’m left to wonder what would compel someone to obfuscate a discussion and then declare themselves on higher ground. The same answer comes back. It’s EGO!!

For those of you who’d like to make this about Nolawi’s initial post read back what I had to say about it and say where I may have erred.
Macellaio, you can keep making your jokes (which I’m cool with) and act the fool but I’ll not answer back. I hope you wont be so full of yourself to tell us one more time it’s because you scaled the moral Himalayas.
I’m out of here y’all. Come-on though, grow some spine y’all!!

Announcement: HSAS Threat Level has been reduced from Orange (HIGH – scared sh^tless by all the cutting & dicing) to Yellow (ELEVATED – perched on the high grounds both morally & physically looking down for any sign of Getu). No more knives in the lounge. Whew…

Back to the original post: I really don’t want to hijack this from the great point Nolawi was trying to make in the article – Just do it! So lets discuss that, shall we? (Kiki thx for refocusing the discussion back to where it should be.) I’ll start: Is a resolution (scheduled sometime in the future) just another crutch/loop-hole for procrastinators on a subconscious level? (Sadly, I’m def the lead member of this group.) Are we cheating ourselves here by not ACTING as soon as we recognize something in our life needs change?

to never kick a man when he is down…

Bravo Macellaio. ye’Temare ababale newu.