Comments on: Nolawi Speaks I http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:28:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Lucina Klund http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-19274 Lucina Klund Wed, 05 Oct 2011 08:32:35 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-19274 Nice read. I just passed this onto a colleague who was doing a little research on that. He just bought me lunch because I found it for him! So let me rephrase: Thanx for lunch! Nice read. I just passed this onto a colleague who was doing a little research on that. He just bought me lunch because I found it for him! So let me rephrase: Thanx for lunch!

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]]> By: Nolawi http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1899 Nolawi Mon, 21 May 2007 05:44:54 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1899 [quote comment="45120"]hey nolawi. this is great! but i think you need to learn your prayer. you were missing some lines lol[/quote] the lines are different in the four different times its mentioned in the bible... [quote comment="45120"]hey nolawi. this is great! but i think you need to learn your prayer. you were missing some lines lol[/quote]
the lines are different in the four different times its mentioned in the bible…

]]> By: just me http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1898 just me Mon, 21 May 2007 05:23:19 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1898 hey nolawi. this is great! but i think you need to learn your prayer. you were missing some lines lol hey nolawi. this is great! but i think you need to learn your prayer. you were missing some lines lol

]]> By: Dinkenesh http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1897 Dinkenesh Wed, 09 May 2007 11:37:34 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1897 This is to the person who said , having a prayer in the middle of a reception is weird, and also said most new culture is kind of odd, or something like that. Anyways, Nolawi, i don't know when the prayer part was done on the wedding you went too. But doing a prayer, right before the dinner part is common. As a matter of fact, i have never been to an Ethiopian wedding, where the food is served without a blessing from a priest. Once the musheroch are in and right before they eat dinner, a priest has to do a prayer for the blessing of the food and the marriage. This is to the person who said , having a prayer in the middle of a reception is weird, and also said most new culture is kind of odd, or something like that. Anyways, Nolawi, i don’t know when the prayer part was done on the wedding you went too. But doing a prayer, right before the dinner part is common. As a matter of fact, i have never been to an Ethiopian wedding, where the food is served without a blessing from a priest. Once the musheroch are in and right before they eat dinner, a priest has to do a prayer for the blessing of the food and the marriage.

]]> By: Nolawi http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1896 Nolawi Sun, 06 May 2007 16:38:03 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1896 thanks paz, yemi thanks paz, yemi

]]> By: Yemi http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1895 Yemi Sun, 06 May 2007 01:28:39 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1895 Nolawi, I totally and absolutely agree with you, religion has shaped our culture. Like you, I am not religious but I fast. It is an opportunity to make fantastic veggie ethio food at our house, days to be creative, to explore our <em>tsom</em> food. I love <em>kidasse</em> chanting and when we lived in Ethiopia, I enjoyed listening to <em>kidasse</em>, it put me in a contemplative peaceful mood but I run off before all the preaching began. My son has a thread around his neck from his baptism. His baptism ceremony was stunningly beautiful. I felt honored to be part of it. The thing is, you can believe what you believe and if you are strong enough in your beliefs, you can also follow the cultural aspects of the church without feeling like you are part of an institutionalized religion... this is of course if you are not religious or follow a different form of religion. If you are (orthodox) then you are following it anyway... the issue of following the cultural aspect is not an issue for you. Nolawi,

I totally and absolutely agree with you, religion has shaped our culture. Like you, I am not religious but I fast. It is an opportunity to make fantastic veggie ethio food at our house, days to be creative, to explore our tsom food.

I love kidasse chanting and when we lived in Ethiopia, I enjoyed listening to kidasse, it put me in a contemplative peaceful mood but I run off before all the preaching began.

My son has a thread around his neck from his baptism. His baptism ceremony was stunningly beautiful. I felt honored to be part of it.

The thing is, you can believe what you believe and if you are strong enough in your beliefs, you can also follow the cultural aspects of the church without feeling like you are part of an institutionalized religion… this is of course if you are not religious or follow a different form of religion.

If you are (orthodox) then you are following it anyway… the issue of following the cultural aspect is not an issue for you.

]]> By: pazion http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1894 pazion Fri, 04 May 2007 23:44:43 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1894 the "unscripted Nolawi", it is good. no spell check, no grammer ...(except the amharic accent :-) ) I like it, Alpha, that was funny I can almost hear you say "eweeyyyyyyy".. <blockquote>Alpha May 1st, 2007 at 1:35 am Quote eweeyyyyyyyy, you sound so miskeen……lol hehehehe….so cute…. me liked! </blockquote> the “unscripted Nolawi”, it is good. no spell check, no grammer …(except the amharic accent :-) )

I like it,

Alpha, that was funny I can almost hear you say “eweeyyyyyyy”..

Alpha May 1st, 2007 at 1:35 am Quote

eweeyyyyyyyy, you sound so miskeen……lol

hehehehe….so cute….

me liked!

]]> By: Nolawi http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1893 Nolawi Fri, 04 May 2007 15:08:22 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1893 Thanks konjit, keila I agree [quote comment="41420"]Chala I conquer! Nol, to answer your question I am habesha…but also, I have to sometimes wonder where this idea that the culture and the church have to mix thing came from. <strong>I for one am a firm believer that the culture should be separate from the church.</strong>[/quote] Regardless of what you beleive, that is not the case in our society(world)... religion plays a role... <blockquote>As for the background music as to when you’re praying…that it the TYPICAL example of confusion. so if music is wrong- and you respect God so much that you wouldn’t play it while you’re “praying to him” then why is it right for you to wait 30 secs and have the full band on stage? Shouldn’t we be respecting God (reverence) every waking moment of our lives? Or do we do it b/c it is okayed by tradition?</blockquote> I said traditionally its thought like that.. so i treid not to disrespect blatantly... that is all.. i tried... i think you are just being critical for the sake of being critical! Thanks konjit,

keila I agree

[quote comment="41420"]Chala I conquer!
Nol, to answer your question I am habesha…but also, I have to sometimes wonder where this idea that the culture and the church have to mix thing came from. I for one am a firm believer that the culture should be separate from the church.[/quote]
Regardless of what you beleive, that is not the case in our society(world)… religion plays a role…

As for the background music as to when you’re praying…that it the TYPICAL example of confusion. so if music is wrong- and you respect God so much that you wouldn’t play it while you’re “praying to him” then why is it right for you to wait 30 secs and have the full band on stage? Shouldn’t we be respecting God (reverence) every waking moment of our lives? Or do we do it b/c it is okayed by tradition?

I said traditionally its thought like that.. so i treid not to disrespect blatantly… that is all.. i tried…

i think you are just being critical for the sake of being critical!

]]> By: wondering http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1892 wondering Thu, 03 May 2007 14:13:01 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1892 Chala I conquer! Nol, to answer your question I am habesha…but also, I have to sometimes wonder where this idea that the culture and the church have to mix thing came from. I for one am a firm believer that the culture should be separate from the church. I have been studying the Orthodox Church against the Bible (which should be the bases of the church) and I do see a lot of Unbiblical things that are being practiced in the church. Therefore, I now have to conclude that traditions are taking over the “true Christianity” and instead we’re living a delusional Christian life… So I personally believe that the Church needs to step back and make some corrections. As for the background music as to when you’re praying…that it the TYPICAL example of confusion. so if music is wrong- and you respect God so much that you wouldn’t play it while you’re “praying to him” then why is it right for you to wait 30 secs and have the full band on stage? Shouldn’t we be respecting God (reverence) every waking moment of our lives? Or do we do it b/c it is okayed by tradition? Chala I conquer!
Nol, to answer your question I am habesha…but also, I have to sometimes wonder where this idea that the culture and the church have to mix thing came from. I for one am a firm believer that the culture should be separate from the church. I have been studying the Orthodox Church against the Bible (which should be the bases of the church) and I do see a lot of Unbiblical things that are being practiced in the church. Therefore, I now have to conclude that traditions are taking over the “true Christianity” and instead we’re living a delusional Christian life… So I personally believe that the Church needs to step back and make some corrections.

As for the background music as to when you’re praying…that it the TYPICAL example of confusion. so if music is wrong- and you respect God so much that you wouldn’t play it while you’re “praying to him” then why is it right for you to wait 30 secs and have the full band on stage? Shouldn’t we be respecting God (reverence) every waking moment of our lives? Or do we do it b/c it is okayed by tradition?

]]> By: keila http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1891 keila Thu, 03 May 2007 13:37:13 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1891 It is pretty ludicrous to assume that religion isn’t part of our tradition, however, organized religion and the spirituality behind religions shouldn’t be mixed. I also don’t get the praying for the sake of “tradition”, I feel it makes a slight mockery of what people believe so strongly in It is pretty ludicrous to assume that religion isn’t part of our tradition, however, organized religion and the spirituality behind religions shouldn’t be mixed. I also don’t get the praying for the sake of “tradition”, I feel it makes a slight mockery of what people believe so strongly in

]]> By: konjit http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1890 konjit Thu, 03 May 2007 02:19:06 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1890 Another great idea by.... who else Nolawi. Great story, i like it. Another great idea by…. who else Nolawi. Great story, i like it.

]]> By: Nolawi http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1889 Nolawi Wed, 02 May 2007 14:03:46 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1889 story good input, i don't think we necessarily disagree... thanks besh, and NT and the rest of you all for the supportive comments... story good input, i don’t think we necessarily disagree…

thanks besh, and NT and the rest of you all for the supportive comments…

]]> By: nt http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1888 nt Wed, 02 May 2007 04:30:23 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1888 heehehehe.. thats funny..nice background.. it one of my favorites. We want yours voice LOUDER or lower your background. other than that arif concept heehehehe.. thats funny..nice background.. it one of my favorites. We want yours voice LOUDER or lower your background. other than that arif concept

]]> By: beshou http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1887 beshou Tue, 01 May 2007 23:54:24 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1887 you really did speak slower on the podcast and did not hyperventilate after every word. lol. yu know its all luv buddy! you really did speak slower on the podcast and did not hyperventilate after every word. lol. yu know its all luv buddy!

]]> By: story http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1886 story Tue, 01 May 2007 21:11:39 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1886 Your voice is sweet. I would say but could have made it more manly man with the jazzy background. Well i'll disagree with u. I think weddings these days do'nt showcase true Ethiopian culture. Most are lost in the middle between Ethiopian and Western culture. The whole prayer thing in the reception , I just don't get it. Most new customs of the culture are funny. I saw a wedding video where the traditonal way of groom taking away the bride is shown after ketewababech behuala. Well what made it weird was the best men all dressed in suits but they were also carrying the flowers of the bride and mezewochwa. I was shocked they didn't even sing the song they were supposed to sing instead were busy carrying the flowers just like the women do. I was like why r they holding flowers. Then as they came inside the living room they gave the flowers for the women. That was so weird. The bride was supposed to have all her stuff as she was getting ready inside the parents home. The groom was just supposed to come show up. The men carrying women's bouquet flowers were so weird. This is just one weird new culture there are so many. Your voice is sweet. I would say but could have made it more manly man with the jazzy background.
Well i’ll disagree with u. I think weddings these days do’nt showcase true Ethiopian culture. Most are lost in the middle between Ethiopian and Western culture.
The whole prayer thing in the reception , I just don’t get it. Most new customs of the culture are funny. I saw a wedding video where the traditonal way of groom taking away the bride is shown after ketewababech behuala. Well what made it weird was the best men all dressed in suits but they were also carrying the flowers of the bride and mezewochwa. I was shocked they didn’t even sing the song they were supposed to sing instead were busy carrying the flowers just like the women do. I was like why r they holding flowers. Then as they came inside the living room they gave the flowers for the women. That was so weird. The bride was supposed to have all her stuff as she was getting ready inside the parents home. The groom was just supposed to come show up. The men carrying women’s bouquet flowers were so weird.
This is just one weird new culture there are so many.

]]> By: Bed_ford http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1885 Bed_ford Tue, 01 May 2007 20:55:29 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1885 Great job and good creativity, Nolawi; <strong><em>No background music while praying</em></strong>; for some one that has not been to church that often I have a lot of respect for you remembering that. By the way, did you say St. Mary prayer at the reception? Great job and good creativity, Nolawi;
No background music while praying; for some one that has not been to church that often I have a lot of respect for you remembering that. By the way, did you say St. Mary prayer at the reception?

]]> By: AddisLij http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1884 AddisLij Tue, 01 May 2007 20:53:45 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1884 ohhh...how cute! The Abatachin Hoy sounds more like "yeBole lij" silew:) Nol - ha ha...nice Voice... ohhh…how cute! The Abatachin Hoy sounds more like “yeBole lij” silew:) Nol – ha ha…nice Voice…

]]> By: yonas http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1883 yonas Tue, 01 May 2007 20:17:43 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1883 is it just me? or do nol's comments now have a voice? is it just me? or do nol’s comments now have a voice?

]]> By: nyalasmoke http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1882 nyalasmoke Tue, 01 May 2007 20:11:20 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1882 great job on the podcast Nolawi! although shot lived it was fun hanging wid u and .mike at the wedding. But I am still mad at y'alls for letting my tej go. great job on the podcast Nolawi!

although shot lived it was fun hanging wid u and .mike at the wedding. But I am still mad at y’alls for letting my tej go.

]]> By: Nolawi http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1881 Nolawi Tue, 01 May 2007 19:17:43 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1881 [quote comment="41213"]Ok so now I am confused... If orthodox is our culture, then for instance the muslims leaving in Ethiopia have a diffrent culture since they are not orthodox? Or do they have ths same culture since they live in the same country?[/quote] we have the same culture....at the top level... obviously Ethiopia... as a whole has different cultures...different languages and different religions... etc... but at the top we have the same culture... the top of the cuture food chain is the moral system for a society... it is what we value.... and that denotes somewhat of the same culture... moral fiber I know about 30% of you will disagree... but I know the meaning of culture <blockquote>generally refers to patterns of human activity and the symbolic structures that give such activity significance. ....In general, the term culture denotes the whole product of an individual, group or society of intelligent beings. It includes technology, art, science, as well as moral systems and the characteristic behaviors and habits of the selected intelligent entities. In particular, it has specific more detailed meanings in different domains of human activities. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture" rel="nofollow">#####</a></blockquote> [quote comment="41213"]Ok so now I am confused…
If orthodox is our culture, then for instance the muslims leaving in Ethiopia have a diffrent culture since they are not orthodox? Or do they have ths same culture since they live in the same country?[/quote]

we have the same culture….at the top level… obviously Ethiopia… as a whole has different cultures…different languages and different religions… etc…

but at the top we have the same culture… the top of the cuture food chain is the moral system for a society… it is what we value…. and that denotes somewhat of the same culture… moral fiber

I know about 30% of you will disagree… but I know the meaning of culture

generally refers to patterns of human activity and the symbolic structures that give such activity significance.
….In general, the term culture denotes the whole product of an individual, group or society of intelligent beings. It includes technology, art, science, as well as moral systems and the characteristic behaviors and habits of the selected intelligent entities. In particular, it has specific more detailed meanings in different domains of human activities. #####

]]> By: Question http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1880 Question Tue, 01 May 2007 18:46:18 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1880 Ok so now I am confused... If orthodox is our culture, then for instance the muslims leaving in Ethiopia have a diffrent culture since they are not orthodox? Or do they have ths same culture since they live in the same country? Ok so now I am confused…
If orthodox is our culture, then for instance the muslims leaving in Ethiopia have a diffrent culture since they are not orthodox? Or do they have ths same culture since they live in the same country?

]]> By: Nolawi http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1879 Nolawi Tue, 01 May 2007 18:23:39 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1879 Wondering, I don't know if you are abesha, but there are somethings that Ethiopians do and don't.... one thing to respect the elders.. old people are so respected... ... most ethiopians as far as I know do not mix... food with music... i am sure this things are forgoten nowadays as we are becoming more western but it was a fact in our household... no music while you eat... another thing is you don't play your music in church.. so its a blatant disrespect to god if you do this things.. thus no background music while praying... i think its just common sense <blockquote>This goes to all the Bernos readers do you think that some one our Traditions have been carried into the church creating some false illusions about Chirstianity and what it means to be a Christian?</blockquote> I think you are mistaken here too... the question is even a mistake... :) sorry... religion played a role in tradition... if we are forced to support a variable in our tradition... then some base it in religion.... the illusion in not on christianity but in the modernization and westernization of Ethiopian culture... and ofcource its not as simple as that... as there are other variables that affect our culture... like other religions and etc.. which i don't want to talk about right now... <strong>anyways the point is.. orthodox is not just our religion its our culture too... </strong> i hope someday... people start to understand this! Wondering,
I don’t know if you are abesha, but there are somethings that Ethiopians do and don’t…. one thing to respect the elders.. old people are so respected… …

most ethiopians as far as I know do not mix… food with music… i am sure this things are forgoten nowadays as we are becoming more western but it was a fact in our household… no music while you eat…

another thing is you don’t play your music in church.. so its a blatant disrespect to god if you do this things.. thus no background music while praying…

i think its just common sense

This goes to all the Bernos readers do you think that some one our Traditions have been carried into the church creating some false illusions about Chirstianity and what it means to be a Christian?

I think you are mistaken here too… the question is even a mistake… :) sorry…

religion played a role in tradition… if we are forced to support a variable in our tradition… then some base it in religion….

the illusion in not on christianity but in the modernization and westernization of Ethiopian culture…

and ofcource its not as simple as that… as there are other variables that affect our culture… like other religions and etc.. which i don’t want to talk about right now…

anyways the point is.. orthodox is not just our religion its our culture too…

i hope someday… people start to understand this!

]]> By: Money Mek http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1878 Money Mek Tue, 01 May 2007 17:55:21 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1878 You could say its a backward philosophy, to have religion be at the forefront of culture. In our current world religious freedom is more of the norm and religion is not synonymous with culture, but in the past religion was the essential part of the culture. You could say its a backward philosophy, to have religion be at the forefront of culture. In our current world religious freedom is more of the norm and religion is not synonymous with culture, but in the past religion was the essential part of the culture.

]]> By: Emfraz http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/comment-page-1/#comment-1877 Emfraz Tue, 01 May 2007 17:35:11 +0000 http://www.bernos.com/blog/2007/05/01/nolawi-speaks-i/#comment-1877 you go girl! you go girl!

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